it's fair to reset rank score and to leave the elos as is

if players want to get a head-start on the next month's scoring, they can climb to a high elo and sit on it

but again - it takes a lot of skill and luck to get that high, so the ones who are in position to get the high rank values are the ones who manage to get to 2100, 2000+, so that's fair

I haven’t been here for a while and wow, look at all the discussions!

I don’t see why we cannot have a full re-set. In gpokr, people worked hard for their winnings but come month end, they are all gone. Why can’t we have the same thing for kdice? Why can’t we start totally clean? Why do we have a double standard? Anyone care to justify that?

It seems that most people who vote for keeping the ELO are players with a higher rank and/or are donors. Are we afraid that a full re-set would piss off these donors (and that they won’t give $$$ anymore?). If that’s the case, it’s fine. A corporation has to answer to its shareholders!

But still, I’d love to hear more from the lower score/rank players. Please vote otherwise the top players will decide your fate.

Maybe its because lower rank people, just don't frigging care about rank?

I got my ELO, im trying to improve that, I really don't care about ranking place... reset it, don't reset it, give everybody whos names starts with an vokal +100 rank, really whatever ;-)

alright, im gonna list out the pros and cons of both ideas, then everyone vote on it

OPTION 1 - Reset rank score to 0. Reset Elo (rating) to 1500. This is a complete reset option.

PROS /
* Completely level footing, everyone starts off the month fresh and no one has an advantage whatsoever over anyone else.
* Makes the top 25 completely accessible to everyone.
* Will be a more accurate representation of 'skill' at the game to see who manages to climb to the upper tables again and do well
* Anyone who has been away for a while would have a very steep climb to get high on the top 25, (cracking the top 5 for instance) so now they can compete again.
* Lastly, it would inject a little livlihood into the community to see the top players changing often.

CON / (note, this con section is only vs the idea of not reseting rating (elo)... we all agree rank score should be reset)

* Elo (rating) is a display of regular skill in the kdice world, give or take 100 or so and you usually see how good someone is. This should not be stripped cuz players work hard to get it.
* For players who are REALLY good, but don't play often, their elo is likely very high. This would benefit those players greatly who play only 50-100 games but have 2000+ elo - they deserve to keep their hard work to get that high so when the rank score gets reset they can climb deservedly, representing their skill.
* People like the tables they are at and don't want the 'hassle' of climbing up through the ranks, especially since tables dont always have 100 value incriments open (right now 1700 tables are missing) so it's harder to get up to 1800 tables, etc.




OPTION 2 (reset rank score, but leave elo (rating) as is

PRO -
* Top players dont have to bother to climb through the tables again to get to the highest ones
* There is advanced notice (about a week) prior to the rank score reset. Everyone who wants to get a jump-start then knows to get to a very high elo (2000s+) and just sit on it waiting, knowing they can get serious rank once the reset happens ***This is technically fine, so long as everyone in the community is aware of the impending reset. Giving notice of over a week for everyone to try and get a high elo is sufficient time, arguably - since if a player has skill then they supposedly should be 1800s or higher elo.


* Great players who dont play often can get to a high elo then be ready to reap in some rank, deservedly i'd say, for those people with 20%+ 1st place finishes and over 60% of hteir finishes in the top 3 places.
* We wouldnt have the hassle of waiting for 1600, 1700, 1800 tables to open up again, which was annoying.


CON /
* is it a completely level playing field? NO!, for someone who just starts up at 1500 they have to catch up
* We have to explain to everyone again why there's a reset of rank score but not elo. Sounds silly, but there's been so much confusion over score and rank and stuff that really.. its not that silly.
* Players on the top 5 right now (check news section) can just sit on their elo, and once the reset happens they can play and almost instantly be the top players.











i'll not give my vote yet but post is later after people have voted, i've tried to keep this neutral and to the facts.

Your thoughts?

THE FAIREST WAY FOR EVERYONE (NOT JUST A SMALL GROUP OF PLAYERS) IS TO HAVE A COMPLETE RESET, LIKE GPOKR.

The pro and cons are very biased.

*Elo (rating) is a display of regular skill in the kdice world, give or take 100 or so and you usually see how good someone is. This should not be stripped cuz players work hard to get it.

Gpokr stripped everyone of their money at month end and why couldn’t kdice. You have not really justified why we should do things differently.

* People like the tables they are at and don't want the 'hassle' of climbing up through the ranks, especially since tables dont always have 100 value incriments open (right now 1700 tables are missing) so it's harder to get up to 1800 tables, etc.

you mean YOU don’t want to be hassled……

*Top players dont have to bother to climb through the tables again to get to the highest ones

yeah, the top players will probably stay there forever…….

*Players on the top 5 right now (check news section) can just sit on their elo, and once the reset happens they can play and almost instantly be the top players.

I am surprise you have it under con……

ryan, please give your OFFICIAL options and thoughts.......

sometimes i am confused who is the boss here.....

I'm not gonna reply after this anymore because you guys are pissing me off. I'm trying to be helpful and provide the facts, help explain how the rank and scoring system works for people who don't understand it.. and in return I get put down and people give me nothing but crap.

Ryan has posted above that he plans to do a reset of rank score, but leave the ratings as-is (leaving the elos as they are).

What a thread... it´s really screwed up by nonsens posts - but there are also a lot of versy good posts.

My comment:
Please don´t reset the ELO-rating... there´s still another gamestyle on the unlimited tables and the higher tables. But for the moment also the 1500-tables are "playable" as before the reset. I´m not happy to in expectation to have to play again all these players from the unlimitted tables again. It´s not so funny.

About the rank... I don´t like it as main statistic. I still prefer the ELO-Rating.

Alpha1, i see you've played 5 games. Do you think your opinion here should be taken equally with people that have played hundreds or thousands?

playing a lot of games doesnt make you smarter!

it might give you more experience, but you will not go smarter with this.

I will value the opinion regardless of the # of games played.