Players who are away should not be rewarded no matter what their score.

"No one can tell me that is fair scoring. I end up with more territories, defeating more players than the third place player and get less points than third place? That makes NO sense."
Again, this thread is not about scoring, but I will explain.
The score is based the relation between your actual score, and your expected score (based on your points). So someone with 1300 points playing against a bunch of 1500's is expected to do worse than a 1500 playing those same players. Suppose the 1300 guy is expected to be 5th, and the 1500 is expected to be 4th. If they finish 3rd and 2nd respectively, they played equally well: 2 places about their expected place, resulting in a similar amount of points rewarded.
The next game his expected place is higher, so he has to play better to maintain his score (and he won't achieve that with going away every game). It's a proven scoring concept in games with little luck, like chess. Although in kdice luck is an important factor, you can still say with reasonable accuracy that a player hovering around 1700 is significantly better than a player hovering around 1500.

The thing is, look how long you guys took to kill off the guy in third. Why should he have to stick around and wait for your crap? If either of you had played better maybe you could've taken him out faster. He got more points because a 1300 player beating two 1500+ players is pretty damn good! (It also equally takes into account the other players though). He had zero chance at 1st and it's not his fault 3rd is so highly rewarded even though an away player can often achieve it.


Nevertheless...
"Perhaps the place values don't mean as much as they should. You can argue first place and 6th and 7th are obtained by luck/bad luck and the battle for 2nd-5th have the most skill involved. I'm working on new scoring that reduces the importance of place.

I should have something to test in about 10 days."

They were testing a new scoring system in the sandbox that rewards capturing territories, it should be pretty awesome!

Brain and JKD, you are not making any sense...

"Again, this thread is not about scoring"

WHAT?!?! It's all about scoring! Sure many play just for fun. But most play to score more points so that they can be in the top 100.

"expected score"

I have never heard of a non-rigged game that used "expected" score to determine score. "Expected score" should have nothing to do with who scores. It makes no sense. So the Chicago Bears are expected to lose in the upcoming Superbowl against the Indianapolis Colts. Well, if we used this thought process, we should give the Bears an extra 7 points, because they are "expected" to lose. That's completely not fair.

"look how long you guys took to kill off the guy in third"

If the player would have stayed, we would have killed them off right away. It was an advantage to keep that player sitting there for both me and the other top team because it was a buffer. We CHOSE to not eliminate them. It had nothing to do with not being able to kill them off.

"If either of you had played better"

We could not have played any better. I owned about half the board and the 1st place player owned the other half. Only one territory wasn't owned by either of us and as I said we let it be as an advantage.

"He got more points because a 1300 player beating two 1500+ players is pretty damn good!"

No way. Maybe he got to 1300 because he gives up too much. So what anyway. Anyone who is at 1300 points should abandon that user id and start another one. Don't you start at 1500? If anything he should be penalized for being so stupid.

ak777 you said
"WHAT?!?! It's all about scoring! Sure many play just for fun. But most play to score more points so that they can be in the top 100. "

No this thread is not about scoring. Here is the initial post: "How are the places distributed when all people flag.
First of all it´s the number of territories that´s for sure.
But what happens when two people have the same number of territories? I thought it would be the number of dice but i had a game where i was place behind an other player although i had one more dice in reserve."

He is asking how it determines what place you finish in when you all flag and more than one player has the same number of territories. When he says place he means like 2nd, 3rd, 4th. Understand?
Once Ryan answered his question there should not have been any more posts because his question had been answered by the one source that has all the answers.

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