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A question of ethics, and group PGE
fiero600 wrote
at 4:12 PM, Friday June 13, 2025 EDT
Lately, the question of ethics and rules has come up frequently on the practice of group PGE, and whether it should be allowed.

Seen most frequently, is at the 0 table, where there is generally a group understanding to work together to kill the robot first, and then the humans fight.

This is also frequently seen in tournaments, most notably when players such as sajacakdjlfa or Colonia are sitting. As these players have are prone to backstabbing, ignoring flags, or not paying attention in general, they've accrued a lot of enemies. As such, the (enemy of my enemy is my friend) aspect of the game seems to show up a lot.

For example, if I'm sitting at a table with Colonia and any of Colonia's other PGE's, I will naturally work with them to kill Colonia. Colonia's accrual of multiple PGE's results in him frequently being eliminated first on a table. After Colonia is dead though, we have no allegiance to each other.

My question to the community; are there any ethical or rule based issues with this behavior, or is this a natural consequence of making lots of enemies?

My person take, is that working with other players for the purpose of killing a common enemy, rather than for the purpose of winning points, is perfectly acceptable.

What say you?

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Colonia wrote
at 7:32 PM, Monday June 16, 2025 EDT
wow big dynamics
stinkydude wrote
at 8:41 AM, Tuesday June 17, 2025 EDT
I've said this in chat a lot. Those that get labelled as toxic often take being attacked way too personal. It's a war game, you are going to get attacked. I truced against convolution as a standard play. It cost him 1st place. Rather than just move on, he spent the next hour flagging everyone and attacking only me.

The names that get mentioned a lot often are those that get unhinged every time they are attacked. How many times have you attacked someone then had to read in chat that was the dumbest move ever and you are stupid?

just smoke some stinky stuff and relax

Colonia wrote
at 9:49 AM, Wednesday June 18, 2025 EDT
fiero this post is completely whiny as you are since months

stop your hate seeding!

do u have peoblems with your wife or what is the fact?
rhcpkid wrote
at 4:20 PM, Friday June 20, 2025 EDT
I agree with LC on this one.

Treat every game independently. Short term PGE is naturally acceptable depending on what the action was against me. If someone in a tourney ignored my flag or something in a game I might take revenge the next game and then move on with life. There are players I do not like and may move against them early vs players I do like, but when they flag or if it's in our interest to work together then that ends.

I don't know why anyone PGE's Colonia. He'a a good guy. Unless you're Joey, who's also a good guy. While I don't understand their mutual dislike, I recognize it exists.

In the case of Saj and the bot. I think PGE is perfectly acceptable as they both have seemed to PGE the rest of us. Since we know they're always out to screw us over, it only makes sense to PGE them. At least the bot will accept your flag....but I think we all recognize doing that on a 0 table is a weak move.

It would be nice to have more mods depending on who they are. If they're going to be like the mods on Reddit, who will issue bans at the drop of a hat if they simply don't agree with you, we're better off without them. We don't have enough players to ban anyone without a really egregious action. There are some players on here who have obnoxious chats, but play the game fair enough so it'd be a shame to ban them. The only reason I'd report someone to a mod would be for cheating with proxies...as in the case of one individual I'm super suspect of recently.
fiero600 wrote
at 7:13 PM, Saturday June 21, 2025 EDT
RHCP,

How many times would you have to be back-stabbed by the same player, before you stop accepting their flags?

For me, with Colonia, it was 10. I gave him a half dozen warnings, and after the 10th "oops, forgot I flagged to you" I permanent pge him.

Your comment conveys weakness. It tells me that I can backstab you at will, and you will still accept my next flag.
rhcpkid wrote
at 12:11 AM, Sunday June 22, 2025 EDT
As I stated, if someone back stabbed me I wouldn't accept their flag the very next game.
Colonia wrote
at 8:30 AM, Sunday June 22, 2025 EDT
hilarious
Louis Cypher wrote
at 3:28 AM, Tuesday June 24, 2025 EDT
A good comment rhc, thank you. And this is just what it is about. The kid and I are not getting along perfectly all the time - that doesn't mean we have to enter eternal war. For the time being from my side it is a situation of respecting the other guy without falling in love ;-)

In your case fiero, I can understand the anger. I'd probably wouldn't be done revenging in one game - but it should be over at some point. At least I'd give the foe a chance on lower tables - like I've done (without success) with Generalstab many times...

Regarding mods, my approach would be to name a bunch - nobody will be willing to invest as much time and effort as Jurgen did (without judging his performance). Then you see, how they develop. If they turn out like BidDaddyKane - end the privileges as soon as possible. If the performance is more like the currently active mods (when they were active), that'd be good.

Regarding suspicion, let me say that I do have a certain suspicion myself and have named some funneling accounts in chat. If I was given the powers I'd start by taking out the more or less obvious "supporters" for a while...
Colonia wrote
at 4:28 PM, Tuesday July 1, 2025 EDT
louis your suspicions are not well investigated!

no evidance only pseudo babble!

you have a cognition distortion!

you are not able to find out the truth!

its only shizzle
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