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Some thoughts about the gameplay on the multiplayer-game kdice...
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super strut wrote
at 4:30 PM, Wednesday April 11, 2007 EDT
I´m really pissed of by the gameplay on the 1700-tables in the last days.
Are there only selfish, egoist players around??? You can´t trust anyone? Nobody think about this game as a multiplayer game, you may play on teams as well? No-one will see the chances, that cooperations could give? On the one side, we here complaining about "flagfests", on the other side, a trucefull unspocken cooperation between nearby players seems to be impossible... Ryan said once, that this game is about psychology. To forecast the next moves of the other players. But do anybody think here about this? If I have the chance to attack a nearby player early, before he had the chance to stack up, and I don´t do it.... what do you think why I don´t do it??? ´cause I´m to stupid for this game?????? Or could it perhaps be, that I´m so gentle to give you a chance and to find a trucefull ally later in this game? What do you want to do with such a chance... knowing, that there is a front, and your neighbour don´t attack you? Why you don´t use it? So long asking for an official truce will evoke some counter-truces immediatly - also if you´re small and weak? With this background - please stop complaining about pga´s... |
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Scaldis Noel wrote
at 7:00 PM, Wednesday April 11, 2007 EDT Apparently, you have been losing quite a bit recently as a result of the gameplay on those tables. Which would seem to indicate that other player's strategies are evolving and yours aren't. Just because other players aren't playing the way you think they should, or aren't playing the same way they used to, doesn't mean that they aren't playing smart for themselves. If they are winning and you aren't, maybe they have the better strategy.
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 8:27 PM, Wednesday April 11, 2007 EDT Aixo, I only read parts of your post, but, that's why I hate the 1700 tables. People attack you, and screw your situation up, and get away with it. I hate the 1700's for this reason, and, it gets frustrating.
I don't know what to do now that I'm down to the 1700s, only that I can win two in a row, and get third or better. It's an awkward spot to be in, because you're on the verge of being amongst people who know what they're doing, and amongst those who are close, but do the most annoying, rookie stuff though. And, to your question, yes I am one to anticipate the moves of my enemies, which is one valuable technique. I get pissed when Someone attacks me, for no freaking reason, and either take me out in the process, while they die the next turn, or just fuck up a nice set up. I'm the one totally agreeing with you this time, Aixo. |
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 8:42 PM, Wednesday April 11, 2007 EDT For, example, I was just trampled by three other equal sized players that just for uncalled reasons turned all efforts to attacking me. Now, I understand the issue against flagging, but still attacking, but I still use it as a tactic, since it would help me get out of the 1700 hell hole.
And so, I insult those who just plow me over, for no spoken reason they turn their efforts to me. I was combating my own enemy, but, prepared with a flag in case of a mass-flag. It's just annoying to deal with this crap, and be in a tumultuous rollercoaster ride between scores, waiting to get above 1900 to play with people who, regardless of the flaws they have up there, they still know how to play better than the others. I hate complaining, but, I'd rather vent it out here than in chat, where I will get stupid crap from other players for being reasonably angry. |
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WayneRooney wrote
at 1:12 AM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT Im pretty sure everyone tries to figure out what people will do but at the same time its hard to predict the movements of 6 others because of the way the restacks are random. I find my self mapping out my attack at the start and then someone gets a 6er in my connecting point and crap, strategy gone start over.
What drive me nuts is when people wont connect when they can especially when cutting someone else. Today I was in a game where one player had about 6 well fortified territories and 2 8 stacks a few away. Another player came around and was very thinbut made a huge connection. Instead of cutting the other guy captain tons of dice just sat there and attacked and let the other guy stay connected. Meanwhile I'm hanging in with 5 territories (one had an 8 and the other were 3 or 4) trying to fend off the huge guy while not leaving my big stack open to his 8s. The 8 stack guy ended up in 3rd and the huge guy ended up in 4th because he was thin but still if the 8 stack guy just connected earlier he would have taken the entire map and played good defense but did neither. But yeah people who dont do what 99% of the other do are annoying because their random movements end up losing them games but they usually take one or two others with them |
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super strut wrote
at 7:14 AM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT well... thx for the answers. I´m glag that I´m not the only one, who feel that it could be better here.
my point was to show, that there are also other ways to play this game, and I hope some people start to rethink their strategies... Well, Scaldis - of course other strategies are as well sucessfull as mine. The described strategie isn´t so unsuccessfull. I played now perhaps 20 games in row between 1700 and 1800 points - not less, not more. But I don´t think that the other strategie is more succesfull. `cause what will be fine in one game, isn´t fine in the next game. It´s more about luck then skill (but of course it´s more about skill then at the unlimitted tables)... |
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Evermore wrote
at 9:28 AM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT lol strategy my arse, the outcome of the winner is more luck than strategy
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sminge wrote
at 10:08 AM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT @evermore
u gona sit there and say there is no strategy to this game? let me put this to u...how come the top players are still the top players and have been sucessful month after month? u think the same players are lucky time after time? think bout it! |
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WayneRooney wrote
at 10:47 AM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT I once thought it was luck too, but in that there has to be some strategy. If you move a 6 stack next to an 8 stack, then luck says if they attack, you'll lose. So strategy says if you've got another move, dont do that quite yet.
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Evermore wrote
at 2:48 PM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT yep, didnt say there was no strategy, of course theres a little, but its mainly luck
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 3:47 PM, Thursday April 12, 2007 EDT I think not Evermore... You can't possibly just click every territory on your screen available, and expect to succeed. Try it. Then come back.
BTW, nice choice of avatar. :) |